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Thanks for leaving your two new foster kids here, thinking they can just play on the computer for the next 5 hours.  Actually since they don't have library cards and because of a little thing called CIPA, I can't just let them on, even as they start crying because they have been looking forward to it for days.  Thanks for making me be the bad guy.  Thanks for leaving a 8 and a 14 year old unsupervised who have no way to contact you because they don't have your number and don't know your last name yet.  Thanks for letting me worry about them (even though like "no in loco parentis") as a super-friendly middle aged man who is not a regular here comes over to them and starts chit chatting with them (thankfully he leaves shortly).  


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Mar. 25th, 2013 09:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, we had a foster parent doing that. The kids were about that age too, and the younger one was either ADHD or just hyper and in need of constant attention. They'd come in on the school bus after school and be stuck here until we closed at 6pm every day of the school year, then on Saturdays they'd be here sometimes from open until close. The older brother wasn't too bad, he really could entertain himself on the computers for that long, but a young and very active boy? He'd be on the computer. Then he'd be off. Then he'd want a different computer. Then he'd be off.

We wound up having to tell her that her foster kids weren't allowed in the library without her, especially not the younger one. He had a good heart, but he just would not stop pestering the staff looking for something to entertain himself with - he could only play so many computer games and watch so many DVDs before he got bored and restless. Poor kid was driving us all insane.
Mar. 27th, 2013 04:16 pm (UTC)
Of course he didn't want to READ.

Bored at the library. OH THE HUMANITY!
Mar. 28th, 2013 03:06 am (UTC)
He did some reading - but really, he was just a very high-energy, physical kind of kid, and he needed some attention and a way to burn off some of that energy. He'd have been better off in some kind of sports than at the library.
Mar. 25th, 2013 09:36 pm (UTC)
That's awful.
How could anyone do that to their kids?
Years ago, my mom used to leave me at home with my younger siblings when I was 14...but today, no way in hell would she leave a couple of kids unsupervised at the library.
Mar. 25th, 2013 10:01 pm (UTC)
I was going to make a post similar to this, and it's not even Tuesday (which is the day that my library has adult computer classes, which is apparently code for "leave your children unattended for 2 hrs while you go learn about MS Excel"). First today we had two kids (both looked like they were 4-6 years old) having a wrestling match in front of our fireplace. Luckily, they were easily lured over to the kids section. And then there's the little girl (who's about 3) whose mother leaves her "supervised" by the 9 year old. The 9-year-old tries, but I always try to place myself so that I'm shelving near the doors when I see them in the library because I've caught the littler girl on her way out the front door one too many times.

We used to have a group of 4 or so kids who came in whose mom owned the nail salon that was in the same strip mall as our library, and they'd stay for *hours,* and were young enough that they couldn't really amuse themselves for that long and relied a lot on the librarians to supervise them. We eventually had to tell the mom her kids couldn't be in the library for longer than 30 minutes out of any 2 hour period or something like that. I understand it's hard affording child care, especially when you're working at/own a nail salon, but good grief.

Leaving behind brand new foster kids, though? That's just a whole new level of shitty. At least walk them in and get them library cards ffs.
Mar. 25th, 2013 11:00 pm (UTC)
Augh. I know we don't have obligations to report, but that would definitely make me feel like a call into the foster parenting agency to lodge a question about their fitness was in order. Especially when they're new.
Mar. 25th, 2013 11:55 pm (UTC)
yeah, this. They don't even know the fparents' last name or phone number and they're already getting dropped off places? Poor kids.
Mar. 27th, 2013 09:46 pm (UTC)
I feel so, so sorry for these kids.

Why the hell did these idiots accept to be foster parents in the first place if they aren't even going to pay attention to the kids?

The next time it happens I would legitimately call CPS or the police. The fact that these kids don't know their number or even the last name of the foster parent is awful.

Edited at 2013-03-27 09:58 pm (UTC)
Mar. 28th, 2013 03:07 am (UTC)
Because you get paid to be a foster parent.
Mar. 28th, 2013 05:56 pm (UTC)
Sadly, yes. I guess I shouldn't be surprised, as long as these people are picking up a check, it seems like they don't give a shit. Which is horrible.
Mar. 25th, 2013 11:00 pm (UTC)
We get a lot of this, not to mention after school hours which are regarded by parents as free babysitting. BUT! Our system has a formal policy stating that we are not responsible for children left unattended in the library, and we WILL call the police if no one retrieves the kids. In our area, almost ever child has a cell phone, and we will use it to call the parents and tell them it's time to get the child. And if i have to speak to the parent, i stress how "scared and abandoned" the child felt... Then i tell them next time i'll have to call the police..

I guess if it takes a village to raise a child, WE are the village... Sigh...
Mar. 26th, 2013 05:33 pm (UTC)
we do as well and we often several kids under the age of 14 that hang out here unsupervised from the time school lets out at 3 until we close at 8 and it blows my mind, they come right from school and stay through what most would consider the dinner hour and take off by closing. Many of them do live less then a block away, but still. One parent told me she wasn't worried because it was the library and nothing happens at the library.
Mar. 27th, 2013 05:47 am (UTC)
"Nothing happens at the library."


Edited at 2013-03-28 11:16 pm (UTC)
Mar. 26th, 2013 12:27 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I would have called the cops and Child protective services on that one, simply because the foster parent dropped them off without making sure they had contact information first. Kids don't do details very well, so it's on you as a parent to make sure that they know things like their address and phone number in case something happens. This goes double for foster parents, and it's pretty inexcusable that this one dumped the kids on you with no way to get in touch, to say nothing of the fact that they didn't make sure the kids could actually get on the computers before leaving.

I always like it when I'm creating a card for a kid and the parent takes the opportunity to make the child give their address and phone number, as it show that the parent is thinking and actively trying to teach their child such things.
Mar. 26th, 2013 02:31 pm (UTC)
And this is why we have an Abandoned Child Policy at my library. It states that any child under 9 must be accompanied by a responsible adult or we are free to call the police. If a kid under 14 is left at the library at closing, we can call the police.
So far, in my 8 years, we've only really had to use this policy once. Scared 6 yr old left alone while Mom is getting her hair done? Damn right we're calling the cops.
I've also driven a crying 15 yr old home after closing, in a snowstorm. Her mom thought we were open much later than we were, and went shopping in the next city. That was a fun evening.
Mar. 26th, 2013 05:26 pm (UTC)
We have a similar policy but for under 6 which seems crazy, and yes we have called the police when parents could not be gotten a hold of by closing time. Now, I would have loved to be left alone at the library for hours, and it also made me sad that these kids thought they'd have nothing to do if they couldn't use the computers. The worst part is they ended up sneaking out so I have no idea what happened to them
Mar. 26th, 2013 07:37 pm (UTC)
The child abandonment posts always make me grateful I'm not a public librarian. I have zero tolerance for shitty parents and would probably end up calling the cops daily, policy or no policy. I just don't have the stomach for small children running around a public space without supervision. I can't imagine how exhausting it must be to work someplace where this happens every single day.

I hope the poster calls foster services and CPS on the asshat who dropped off their new foster kids. Something tells me they foster for the stipend, not to actually help children in need.
Mar. 27th, 2013 05:50 am (UTC)
I hope the poster calls foster services and CPS on the asshat who dropped off their new foster kids. Something tells me they foster for the stipend, not to actually help children in need.

This. So much THIS!
Mar. 28th, 2013 12:18 pm (UTC)
Sadly because of both our unattended minors policy and our local CPS's definition of neglect, I really won't get any satisfaction from CPS or the police unless we are closed and they are stranded, or if this is a continual situation (ie they leave these kids here during school hours or daily in a manner suggesting they are using the library as an ad hoc daycare, or if they are under 6. It sucks. From previous experience, many times these "Foster mothers", "Aunties" or "Grandmas" are not their legal custodians or blood relations, just people from the neighborhood who end up with these kids hanging around them either by choice or by chance.
Mar. 28th, 2013 11:56 pm (UTC)
How on earth do you survive Sports Team Study Hall nights?
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